Skip to main content

Reply to this post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: Crazy Otto Date: May 18, 2012 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Total hypothetical here (hopefully) but imagine an evil wizard approaches you one day, and he informs you that with one wave of his wand he can wipe out the entire catalog of live Grateful Dead shows. Every tape, CD, FLAC, mp3, etc. gone just like that, never to be heard again.

As much as he'd love to do this, somewhere deep in his cold heart is a tiny shred of compassion, so he comes to you with a choice that will affect you and Deadheads around the world. You get to choose whether all odd numbered years or even numbered years survive.

Naturally you try to bargain with him and see if he could split it so that everything before and through the Keith years survives, and everything after is lost. But he ain't having it. He gives you ten seconds to ponder this, and if a decision isn't made at that time then all shows will be lost.

What do you do? Are you willing to give up the Europe '72 tour and fall of '74 so that spring '77 and the '69 Fillmore shows remain???

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: craven714 Date: May 18, 2012 10:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Odds.
Though missing 66, 68, 70, 72, 74(!), 76, 78, 90...would suck.....wait....
You know what? You're just fucked up man :)

Which would you cut off? Your left or right gonad?
I would go with most numbers have an odd in it, so that
would be ok. Wait! no 4-24-72? No 4-14-72? no Junes
from 76???

this is one messed up game you're playing here. Good thing
I've got medication...
Congrats. You have asked the unanswerable! No flies on you :)

This post was modified by craven714 on 2012-05-19 05:59:53

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: reviewr Date: May 19, 2012 6:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

I'd hate to loose '73, but to get '72 and '74 in exchange, then EVEN. Plus I'd get '68 and '70, and '90 for some variety.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 18, 2012 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Hard choice. But if I had to say, I'm thinking I'd go with the odd years.

73 is perhaps my personal favorite year, 77 is, well, 77. And as many of you know, I couldn't do without Fall>Winter 79. And then 81 and 83 have some choice stuff as well.

Then again...

Is grabbing the evil wizard and threatening him with being forced into prolonged coversation with Rob unless he forsakes his dastardly plan not an option?

Or perhaps we could gag him, put him in a cow suit and dump him in Dire's back yard?

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2012-05-18 15:59:04

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 18, 2012 9:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

that would most assuredly sway him toward relenting on the whole deal (though we could throw him a bone and just give him 91-95 inclusively - wouldn't break MY heart)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Dudley Dead Date: May 18, 2012 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

I was going to go even, but, you make some good points . Also, I assume this is limited to what is out there , thus 69 over 68 because of the number of shows , and it is one of those years where they are very different in the beginning, and the end, same with 71 . 73 and 74 are a coin toss for me, but with 73 you get "Bird Song", and "HC Sunshine" .I would miss 76, but in 77 they pretty much what they didi in 78, but better, and the early 79 shows would give you taste of the late 78 band . 85, 89, and 91 are better bets, I think than their surrounding years . And though you get sort of screwed by 75 ( but those shows a GOOD shows ), you lose the short and weak 86, and 95 is mercifully short ( and you get that late Jerry "Visions of Johanna" , one of the best things in the last few years, with "Days Between").
Thanks Crazy Otto for making us think about the Band's history in a fun way !

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 18, 2012 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

No no. Violence is not the answer. Clearly he had a very painful experience in his past, something related to the Dead -- he trusted a woman who wore her pants too tight, maybe -- and it's left his heart two sizes too small. Or he's a Zep fan (what with being a wizard and all, and clearly a dark one), and he's mad about that thread.

We must expand his heart with the power of song. Everyone together now: fahoo foray, dahoo doray ...

If that doesn't work, you can always pick a good furniture-exploding tune to smash that wand to bits.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: May 18, 2012 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Ha--are these really written down somewhere:

"fahoo foray, dahoo doray ..."

Always loved those, and just never knew how to spell it out...

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 18, 2012 12:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

man, i didnt either. i learn something new everyday.

(sittin here listenin to 9/4/80 - hope I get it all in before the "evens" up and disappear)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 18, 2012 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Well, it appears to be a matter of debate. "Fahoo foray" or "fa who foraze"? There are probably many threads devoted to it on Grinch forums.

But the real question is: What DO those guards chant in the Wizard of Oz? "Oh-wee-oh, we-oooohh-a" or "O We Love the Old One"? I vote for the first, and refuse to believe it's officially known as The Winkie's Chant, which is somehow just not right at all.

I was thinking we could immobilize the Wizard with the 5/8/77 Morning Dew, but in fact he could just be immobilized by sitting him in front of a computer. He'd start by searching on questions of wizardly interest and end up on a wizard forum engaged in debates about whether the best wands were made in the odd or even years.

So, no worries ...

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: May 18, 2012 9:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Ha--another great one! Can't get it to "play" right in my head at this time, but was feeling there should be a "de" sound in there somewhere? Oh well, the Grinch one is so good I'll let it slide. ;)

But, really, the "Winkie's Chant"?!?

Damn, I had no idea...

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 18, 2012 9:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

The Wizard of Oz may be the number one example of a movie that's better than the book. Here's Wikipedia's description of Winkie Country, the land of the Wicked Witch. Thank goodness the movie didn't introduce us to Jack Pumpkinhead or take us on to Oogaboo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkie_Country

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: user unknown Date: May 18, 2012 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

'69 Fillmore West & '71 Fillmore East

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: bluedevil Date: May 18, 2012 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

versus '68 Avalon and Europe '72

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: user unknown Date: May 19, 2012 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

yea..tough decision

and would also hate to lose the '66 Avalon show(9-16-66 I believe) and '72 Veneta

but I'll still go with the odd years

really glad it is only hypothetical



This post was modified by user unknown on 2012-05-18 17:47:42

This post was modified by user unknown on 2012-05-19 23:13:03

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: May 18, 2012 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

60s would odd, 70s would be even and the 80s would be odd.... 90s doesn't matter

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Piles Date: May 18, 2012 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Hey great post. Would I rather give up Oct.'68 or Feb.'69? Live without E'72 or Fall'73? Tough choice for sure. I feel like I'm in a round room looking for a corner.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Mandojammer Date: May 21, 2012 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Azkaban

I would cast a Patronus spell on the wizard, make him produce clean, crisp AUDS for EVERY show and then have a couple of dementors drag his ass to Azkaban

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: huntr Date: May 18, 2012 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

keep the even solely for the 68..

not that 70, 72, 74, 80 and 90 terrible

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: May 18, 2012 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Ah, finally! A man with some sense...this is the ONLY logical choice.

And, BTW, a man that has been MIA for some time--good to see ya, huntr! Second post of the yr?

;)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: user unknown Date: May 19, 2012 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

"keep the even solely for the 68.. "

"Ah, finally! A man with some sense...this is the ONLY logical choice."

shoulda known Sir Wm. would keep '68 and I'd wager the 3/11/68 Sacramento show played a part in that decision

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: huntr Date: May 18, 2012 6:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

no emoticons....

;D

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: adks12020 Date: May 18, 2012 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Can we have the evens in the 70s and the odds in the 80s? That would still be tough but I think I could handle having 81 and 83 instead of 80 and 81; I'd also rather have 87 and 89 than 86 and 88...and I don't think I could do without 72, 74, and 76.....but no 77! ahhh...this would be impossible. I think I'd just tell teh wizard to flip a coin.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 18, 2012 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

I'd take the Odds even though 75 screws you out of a whole year of shows.

68 hard to lose but 69 is good. 70 electric is really sloppy and over rated imo but the wooden sets would suck to lose. Come to think of it if I go with odd years there would be NO acoustic sets except a small sample in 81. BUT nobody mentioned Jerry shows being wiped out so..

Europe 72 would be a HUGE blow but late 71 and 73 should make up for it.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: high flow Date: May 18, 2012 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

60's - odd(68 & 69 being close to equal, but 67 beats 66.)

70's - even(Tough because I love 71, but I think 76 and 78 beat 75 and 79)

80's - odd(Just seems like I enjoy the odd years in the 80's, but I changed my mind. See below.)

90's - odd(1991)

Perhaps I'd re-think the 80's. Those acoustic shows are hard to pass-up. I think I could live with 88 rather than 89 and 82 rather than 81 if it meant getting the acoustic shows. Thus, I change my vote to EVEN for the 80's.

This post was modified by high flow on 2012-05-18 16:57:37

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 19, 2012 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

"70's - even(Tough because I love 71, but I think 76 and 78 beat 75 and 79)"

75 and 79?! What about '77? That's what tips it for me. I'll take '77 over '76 and '78 combined. Plus, I prefer '73 to '74 and '71 to '70 overall. '72 is a huge loss, but oh well.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: high flow Date: May 19, 2012 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Here's how I got there. I matched 72 vs. 77(the heavyweights)....and went from there.

72 > 77(For me this is not as close as it might be for others.)
71 > 70(I agree 71 is better)
73 = 74(Too close to call)
76 > 75(Easy, 76)
78 > 79(Again a very narrow margin, but I like 78 over Brent year #1)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: stratocaster Date: May 18, 2012 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

I would pick odd on an even day, even for an odd, even for st. stephen and odd for uncle john

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: craven714 Date: May 18, 2012 10:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

gimme some of that man......puff puff give strat

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 18, 2012 7:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

i'm with SDH - tough to give up 74 for sure, but i just could not handle giving up 77 and 79.

what a mean wizard. couldn't we just give him a toy train to melt his icy cold heart?? then he could put one foot in front of the other and let us at least keep '72.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 18, 2012 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD Years - Odd Or Even?

Tough call, but I'll take the odds.